Wizard hurting for mana

Eismann

Member
I was looking at Magelo rankings, and my HP seems to be in good shape considering that I am not in a raiding guild with top gear, but my mana pool seems to be much lower than it should be. What am I missing in my AA's? I can't figure out hy my mana pool is so much smaller than my peers.

Magelo

Thank you for any advice.
 

Brickhaus

Well-known member
I took a brief look at your gear. It's all over the place. You are using a lot of TBM/RoS type 5 augs ... or none at all. Your belt is atrocious (sorry, you should be using a belt with threaded boon of potential ... procs are everything as a wizard). Invest in finding a newer 2h weapon as well.

The main thing is that choices have led to your Heroic Intelligence being abnormally low for a 125 int caster character, which directly affects mana pool. You should be pushing 2500 at a bare minimum for a group geared 125 that's not completely LS/TOB/CoM geared. Correcting your type 5s would go a long way into fixing this issue.
 

Covennx

Active member
I want to know why you picked a picture with me dead in it for your Magelo background?!?!?!

Your heroic int is way low. You're missing augs in quite a few slots. Your Heroic aa's (Hero's Fortitude/Resolution/Vitality), while not a huge increase, are beneficial, so working on those will help. Otherwise, it doesn't seem that far off looking at other profiles.
 

fransisco

Well-known member
ive been lazy on my mage and barely have any ToB type 5s (mostly LS ones) and I'm almost 4k hInt with zero raid gear. I also dont try hard for type 7s.
Brick is right, type 5s bring most of your hInt
 

Spacemonkey555

Active member
Familiar and mount buffs add up to 7500, Heros Vitality 2650, proper augs probably easy 25000. I imagine you haven't done your +4 trophy slots and got 8 decent trophies together, that's 200+ to HInt and all the other heroics. Many up to date raiders will have 5+ augs with 120-170 to all heroic stats.

New players have quite a bit to work on, don't plan on fixing your mana compared to someone who's played the last 10 years next week.
 

Eismann

Member
I want to know why you picked a picture with me dead in it for your Magelo background?!?!?!

Your heroic int is way low. You're missing augs in quite a few slots. Your Heroic aa's (Hero's Fortitude/Resolution/Vitality), while not a huge increase, are beneficial, so working on those will help. Otherwise, it doesn't seem that far off looking at other profiles.
Haha, old pic, but I haven't raided since those days. Thanks for the tips too. I have a lot of old content I need to go back and do.
 

CrazyLarth

Well-known member
Special AA

Hero's Vitality AA's are rewards from completing content in Call of the Forsaken + . and each increases your max HP, Mana, Endurance, and how far below 0 your HP can fall before you die by 25 points per rank. If you manage to get all 50 ranks, it'll add up to another 1250 of each.

Hero's Fortitude10/1060
Hero's Resolution6/530
Hero's Vitality10/1060
 

Vumad

Cape Wearer
If you are raiding, Mana and hINT as it applies to mana only really mana if you don't have enough of it.

hINT adds spell shielding and hSTA adds HP. I think that unless you are running out of mana during fights, the primary concern needs to be not running out of HP, because all the mana goes away with it.

You should switch to a 2H, your belt and those healing augs for DPS.
 
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Vumad

Cape Wearer
Here is my checklist for ToB augs so you can go loot what you need.

ToB - Character
Dropped Augments
Slot 4 - Tier 1 - Weapons (looted)
1H [ ]Scalewrought Spoils Souvenir
2H [ ]Elewisa's Favor
Slot 4 - Tier 2 - Weapons (Looted)
Any [ ]Handworked Gem
converts to 1H [ ]Harmonious Honed Gem of the Shackled
converts to 1H [ ]Reactive Honed Gem of the Shackled
2H [ ]Discolored Wood Splinter
converts to 2H [ ]Harmonious Sharpened Gem of the Shackled
converts to 2H [ ]Reactive Sharpened Gem of the Shackled
Slot 5 - Tier 1 - Heroic Stats (Group Currency, NOT LORE)
STR [ ]Glittering Token of Rage
STA [ ]Glittering Token of Sorrow
AGI [ ]Glittering Token of Surprise
DEX [ ]Glittering Token of Horror
WIS [ ]Glittering Token of Serenity
INT [ ]Glittering Token of Joy
HAR [ ]Van's Gem of Tranquility
Slot 5 - Tier 2 - Heroic Stats (Mission chests or Named loot)
STR [ ]Indurate Monitor Eye
STA [ ]Immovable Green Gem
AGI [ ]Monitor's Iris Shard
DEX [ ]Tumbler's Balancing Orb
WIS [ ]Shard of Illumination
INT [ ]Captured Reflection of the Aurora
HAR [ ]Magically Balanced Green Gem
Slot 7/8 - Tier 1 - HP/Mana (looted)
AGI/DEX [ ]Ungerminated Spore
STA/DEX [ ]Steadfast Shadow Gem
[ ]Lore Group =Intellect or Might of the Enthralled
Might [ ]Leviathan Cabochon
Intellect [ ]Brilliant Scalewrought Bauble
(no shield aug this expansion)
Slot 7/8 - Tier 2 - HP/Mana (Mission Chests)
AGI/DEX [ ]Gleaming Emblem of the Overseer
STA/DEX [ ]Bioluminescent Cave Stone
[ ]Lore Group =Intellect or Might of the Shackled
Might [ ]Faskan Rift
Intellect [ ]White Gilded Lodestone
Tradeskill (ores -> crafted)
Slot 4 - Weapons (crafted with)Fortitude Focus of Uprising
1H [ ]Honed Gem of Uprising
converted [ ]Harmonius Honed Gem of Uprising
converted [ ]Reactive Honed Gem of Uprising
2H [ ]Sharpened Gem of Uprising
converted [ ]Harmonius Sharpened Gem of Uprising
converted [ ]Reactive Sharpened Gem of Uprising
Slot 5 - Heroic stat (crafted with)Heroic Focus of Uprising
STR [ ]Mighty Gem of Uprising
STA [ ]Steadfast Gem of Uprising
AGI [ ]Flowing Gem of Uprising
DEX [ ]Nimble Gem of Uprising
WIS [ ]Empathetic Gem of Uprising
INT [ ]Brilliant Gem of Uprising
HAR [ ]Balanced Gem of Uprising
Continued on back
Slot 7/8 - HP/M (crafted with)Fortitude Focus of Uprising
AGI/DEX [ ]Acrobat's Gem of Uprising
STA/DEX [ ]Protector's Gem of Uprising
[ ]Lore Group =Intellect or Might of Uprising
Might [ ]Defender's Gem of Uprising
Intellect [ ]Mystic's Gem of Uprising
Evolving Augments (18) =Acolyte's Focus of the Harbinger
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Evolving Augments (19) =Devotee's Focus of the Harbinger
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Raid Achievement Aug =Vanquisher of The Outer Brood (80 Points)
[ ]Defiant Claw
Luck Aug[ ]
[ ] 61 [ ] 62 [ ] 63 [ ] 64 [ ] 65
[ ] 66 [ ] 67 [ ] 68 [ ] 69 [ ] 70
 

Vumad

Cape Wearer
Here is my checklist of Type 5 augs. The classes were filled out by players of those classes. For WIZ, use the ENC or the N/A column to the left of ENC.

TANKMELEE / HYBRIDCASTERPRIEST
N/AWARPALSHDN/AMNKZERROGBSTRNGBRDN/AENCMAGWIZNECN/ACLRDRUSHM
Raid AugsN/A = Generic for missing classes. Consult your C/L.
ToBDefiant Claw1111111
LSMythic Charm1111111
NoSDivine Medallion1111111
ToLMaster's Curio1111111
EoKNathsar Diamond1111111
Slot 5 - Heroic stat (crafted with)Heroic Focus of Uprising
STR [ ]Mighty Gem of Uprisingxx
STA [ ]Steadfast Gem of Uprising111
AGI [ ]Flowing Gem of Uprising11111
DEX [ ]Nimble Gem of Uprising111
WIS [ ]Empathetic Gem of Uprising1
INT [ ]Brilliant Gem of Uprising11
HAR [ ]Balanced Gem of Uprising11111
Slot 5 - Tier 2 - Heroic Stats (Mission chests or Named loot)
STR [ ]Indurate Monitor Eyexx
STA [ ]Immovable Green Gemxx111
AGI [ ]Monitor's Iris Shardxx111
DEX [ ]Tumbler's Balancing Orbx1x
WIS [ ]Shard of Illumination1
INT [ ]Captured Reflection of the Aurora11
HAR [ ]Magically Balanced Green Gem11111
Slot 5 - PREVIOUS T3 HARMONY
HAR [ ]Harmonious Stone of Perpetual Reverie11111
Total LORE0100057100000141400014000
Remaing Required19919191412919191919551919195191919
Slot 5 - Tier 1 - Heroic Stats (Group Currency, NOT LORE)Aug below are NOT lore. If multiple choices below, pick the hSTAT of your choice.
STR [ ]Glittering Token of Rage
STA [ ]Glittering Token of Sorrowxxx
AGI [ ]Glittering Token of Surprise
DEX [ ]Glittering Token of Horrorx
WIS [ ]Glittering Token of Serenity
INT [ ]Glittering Token of Joy
HAR [ ]Van's Gem of Tranquilityxxxxx
Class recommendations completed by...
 
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Vumad

Cape Wearer
Here is my ToB guide for type 7/8 going back as far as necessary to fill out your armor. The classes were filled out by players of those classes. For WIZ, use the ENC or the N/A column to the left of ENC.

TANKMELEE / HYBRIDCASTERPRIEST
N/AWARPALSHDN/AMNKZERROGBSTRNGBRDN/AENCMAGWIZNECN/ACLRDRUSHM
|N/A = no speific feedback given. Consult your C/L.INTELLECT AUG FROM LORE GROUP
EarArtisan's Prize1111111
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125TOB T3AGI/DEXAcrobat's Gem of Uprising|1111111
125TOB T3STA/DEXCharm/RNGProtector's Gem of Uprising|1111111
125TOB T3M/I Lore G.Defender's Gem of Uprising|111Mystic's Gem of Uprising
125TOB T2AGI/DEXGleaming Emblem of the Overseer|1111111
125TOB T2STA/DEXBioluminescent Cave Stone|1111111
125TOB T2M/I Lore G.Faskan Rift|111White Gilded Lodestone
125TOB T1AGI/DEXUngerminated Spore|11111
125TOB T1STA/DEXCharm/RNGSteadfast Shadow Gem|1111111
125TOB T1M/I Lore G.Leviathan Cabochon|111Brilliant Scalewrought Bauble
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125DP25STRCharmUnparalleled Vigorous Gem of Distant EchoesItem|
125DP25STACharmUnparalleled Staminic Gem of Distant Echoes|1111
125DP25AGICharmUnparalleled Nimble Gem of Distant Echoes|1111
125DP25DEXCharmUnparalleled Finesse Gem of Distant Echoes|1111
125DP25WISCharmUnparalleled Sagacious Gem of Distant Echoes|1
125DP25INTCharmUnparalleled Intellect Gem of Distant Echoes|11
125DP25CHACharmUnparalleled Charismatic Gem of Distant Echoes|
125DP25SHIELDSHIELDUnparalleled Stone of Distant Echoes|XXX
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125LS T3AGI/DEXAdroit Gem of Perpetual Reverie|1111111
125LS T3STA/DEXSecurity Gem of Perpetual Reverie|1111111
125LS T3M/I Lore G.Vigorous Gem of Perpetual Reverie|111Brilliant Gem of Perpetual Reverie
125LS T2AGI/DEXViolet Edged Rose|1111111
125LS T2STA/DEXHardened Glowing Diamond|1111XXX
125LS T2M/I Lore G.The Captain's Strength|111Concentrated Goblin Smarts
120LS T1AGI/DEXMischievous Reanimating Reagent|1111
120LS T1STA/DEXProtective Beak Bauble|1111
120LS T1M/I Lore G.Polished Sardonyx of Lunacy|111Tiny Tessellated Ootheca
120LS T1SHIELDSteely Stone of Buckling|
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120NOS T3AGI/DEXPhantasmal Luclinite Gem of Adroitness|1111
120NOS T3STA/DEXPhantasmal Luclinite Gem of Security|111
120NOS T3M/I Lore G.Phantasmal Luclinite Gem of Vigor|Phantasmal Luclinite Gem of Brilliance
120NOS T2AGI/DEXHumongous Corrupted Pincer|1111
120NOS T2STA/DEXPerformer's Lucky Charm|
120NOS T2M/I Lore G.Grisly Skull of Might|Spittle Pocked Yttrium Coin
120NOS T1AGI/DEXJovial Jharin Jingle|111
120NOS T1STA/DEXSmoldering Core of Radir|
120NOS T1M/I Lore G.Tegi Contemplation Sphere|Kaas Akuel xi Temariel
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Luclinite Ensanguined Gem of Adroit111
Tormented lere111
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115CoV T3AGI/DEXPrimaryVelium Threaded Gem of Adroitness|XXXXX
11522nd AnniPrimaryCopper Flecked Geode of Adroitness|(Note: Same stats as Velium Threaded Gem of Adroit. Use whichever you have.
Total LORE190019191900000191900019000
19 augs (+1 shield) (+1 primary) = 21
 
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Vumad

Cape Wearer
You're also still using LS Group arms instead of ToB group arms so you are losing out on your fire foci upgrade, which I think is like a 20% loss in DPS on your fire spells. I'd be much more hurried to fix that than my mana or some procs (2h, belt, augs).
 

Eismann

Member
You're also still using LS Group arms instead of ToB group arms so you are losing out on your fire foci upgrade, which I think is like a 20% loss in DPS on your fire spells. I'd be much more hurried to fix that than my mana or some procs (2h, belt, augs).
Thank you, super informative lists and advice.
 

fransisco

Well-known member
You're also still using LS Group arms instead of ToB group arms so you are losing out on your fire foci upgrade, which I think is like a 20% loss in DPS on your fire spells. I'd be much more hurried to fix that than my mana or some procs (2h, belt, augs).
Worn damage foci have been shown to do VERY little. Here is a link where Brickhaus shows that LS raid vs group focus is a very tiny difference in dps - 2%. Which I'd argue is within the margin of error, so functionally zero difference.


Theres also more discussion on the mage discord about it to you can search for.
 

Eismann

Member
You're also still using LS Group arms instead of ToB group arms so you are losing out on your fire foci upgrade, which I think is like a 20% loss in DPS on your fire spells. I'd be much more hurried to fix that than my mana or some procs (2h, belt, augs).
Thank you for pointing out the arms, that was an easy fix!
 
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