still no changes to LDON adventure aug # of missions ?
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dentalplan
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The best fix is just to not even bother doing it.
Nah sonny, back in Vietnam I had to do 300 missions for my aug so you gotta do it too. Don't you try and take that badge of honor away from us war heros.
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Just launch LDoN with PoP, people can level to cap while doing LDoNs
CatsPaws
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Is the leader board still up over on TLP? I know I am still top of the board even with all the hunter stuff players do on Live.Nah sonny, back in Vietnam I had to do 300 missions for my aug so you gotta do it too. Don't you try and take that badge of honor away from us war heros.
I liked Hamshire's post because the photo edit cracked me up.
I am okay with various requirements being reduced later in time. So if it now took 15 missions (or none) to max the LDoN aug on live I see no problem with that --the content is beyond trivial and out of date there and you have defiant as the gear baseline.
Now on TLP... it is about tuning it to be purposeful in-era. The dev team seem to have settled on a "typical expac # of weeks" which could allow for a tweaking of the aug mission count to a number that makes sense for the expac era the aug is truly desirable. My recollection was that the LDoN charm aug was used by most longer than just LDoN as the latest expac.
Maybe the math says 200 missions makes more sense until TSS when it drops to 50. Not sure, just made those numbers up (and recalling the Serpent Seeker's charm or whatever it was called finally had me removing the adventurer's aug from old alts).
I am okay with various requirements being reduced later in time. So if it now took 15 missions (or none) to max the LDoN aug on live I see no problem with that --the content is beyond trivial and out of date there and you have defiant as the gear baseline.
Now on TLP... it is about tuning it to be purposeful in-era. The dev team seem to have settled on a "typical expac # of weeks" which could allow for a tweaking of the aug mission count to a number that makes sense for the expac era the aug is truly desirable. My recollection was that the LDoN charm aug was used by most longer than just LDoN as the latest expac.
Maybe the math says 200 missions makes more sense until TSS when it drops to 50. Not sure, just made those numbers up (and recalling the Serpent Seeker's charm or whatever it was called finally had me removing the adventurer's aug from old alts).
This is Rizlona.
This is the reality of the situation, the aug is bis or equiv to bis until Call of the Forsaken which is 14 expansions past LDoN. This is my retired Rizlona character still using it going into Veil of Alaris which is 12 expansions past LDoN. As someone who usually grinds this out every TLP if people want the grind to change to be easier yea sure I wouldn't mind. Just don't lock yourself into the mindset of LDoN is only thirty days! I only have thirty days to do it! Because no, you have 14 expansions to do it.
FWIW: Currently back @ Agnarr to level off a few characters so it's fresh. Doing LDoN to get the pet focus & augs. I've never done a LDoN with a group bigger then 3 NPCs anywhere.
It's pretty tough under any circumstances with less then a full group. Only work around is to do it with low level characters with high level buffs. There's this table from Lazarsus which is a big help. I mean if I use 3 level 65 characters I get an instance with rooms of 5 level equivalent PCs with a couple of them healers. I drop one 65 for a 55 and it lowers my average to 61 and change which is doable. Seems like the 55 requesting the instance is a better outcome too.
I don't really see a way around it as the augmentations vs none are that good, the equipment drops and stuff Adventure vendors sell are good. I mean you are better off raiding, but if you have trouble pulling together more then three level equivalent people, it's the only game in town. Solo is still SOL but it works for med level groups. Some stuff like Cleric Temperance Spell are available from the Adventure Vendors so you don't have to do the quest or wait for another expansion. Doing the math it shows I should be able to put a 56 in there but the thought of getting another room full of killer PCs worries me enough that I have them on 100% AAs.
- 37-42 get a level 40 adventure with mobs of average level 35
- 43-47 get a level 45 adventure with mobs of average level 40
- 48-52 get a level 50 adventure with mobs of average level 45
- 53-57 get a level 55 adventure with mobs of average level 50
- 58-62 get a level 60 adventure with mobs of average level 55
- 63-67 get a level 65 adventure with mobs of average level 60
- 68-72 get a level 70 adventure with mobs of average level 65
When LDoN was new some styles and some themes seemed tough(er). You'd get a couple of better-geared 65's in one and that would go noticeable different. At least that is my foggy recall.
With persona on Teek 6 characters that regularly play together could go 37-42 (using the chart above for the level range) via LDoN wearing raid gear (free trade server) and just keep swapping personas and the gear over. I think LDoN starts at 20 though which lowers the reward but really boosts the overpower factor. The sweet spot of gear-overpower vs. points rewards vs. just getting mission completes is the fine tuning point.
This thread is really old, but maybe partly still correct? https://everquest.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=1&mid=1275575760230916006
It is on me and I get it. I played Agnarr for a year or so then left for other TLPs. It's kind of a mature shard in that most of the players have done everything and been everywhere. It's the same for everyone trying to make a go of it there. Slow experience and not a lot of lower level characters or underdeveloped ones. I mean if I just wanted easy I would get on live and hire some Mercs.
I also choose characters that aren't compatible with what I have to do. I like Druids, Magicians, Rangers. IIRC the only ~non-raid focus items for level 65ish is Diamond Prism of Companionship. This is only available from NRo camp. All NRo Adventures are indoor so it really sucks for splitting camps, no Harmony. I've got an Enchanter but they are only level 53 so a no go for joining. Ditto for subbing in another character like a Cleric, none above 52. 100% success on outdoor Adventures, less then 50% on indoor.
It's just slow with a few wipes. I pay the extra $3/month so as soon as my characters get a level, I lock them into 100% AAs so the deaths don't hurt so much.
I do a lot of cheesy play anyway to get by with only three characters. If I had it to do over I would probably just use my SOP of level 50 buffs and damage shields from my Druid on level 20 characters. About 1/3 of the way to the Focus item on one character. Still have two more Mages, two Beastlords, and a Necro to go. Plenty of higher level characters to buff them and lower level characters to reduce the Adventure difficulty. Juggling the 3 Mages is a bit of a pain but the end seems in sight.
Freaking Teddy, I was 2 away from him and then he sent his guys on a bunch more just to stay number 1This is Rizlona.
This is the reality of the situation, the aug is bis or equiv to bis until Call of the Forsaken which is 14 expansions past LDoN. This is my retired Rizlona character still using it going into Veil of Alaris which is 12 expansions past LDoN. As someone who usually grinds this out every TLP if people want the grind to change to be easier yea sure I wouldn't mind. Just don't lock yourself into the mindset of LDoN is only thirty days! I only have thirty days to do it! Because no, you have 14 expansions to do it.
Any self respecting DPS has well over attack cap long before LDON comes out. Why would you farm attack augs?
fransisco
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I guess I forget how little TLP is like the original game, when the ldon augs mattered