Enchanter Auras do people ask you to use them.

Zen

New member
I started raiding not long ago and I keep asking the grp which auras you would like me to use and nobody every answers other than twincast. the only short duration buff I get tells to cast is Nights Eternal Darkness. When I ask the other enchanters in the raid, they say they do not use mana ripple aura. When raid dps classes are doing billions of damage in the raid, are Enchanters proc auras not enough of a dps increase for people to care if we use them or not?

Nobody even cares if I use Mana Reproduction, but most grps complain if they don't get a bard. Is it worth casting mana reproduction once the raid starts, because one of our DDs might do more damage than the damage from MR
 

fransisco

Well-known member
I'm confused, mana ripple IS the correct aura to use along side twincast. I say "correct" because there isn't even a choice. Those are the single 2 best auras the class has. All the rest of the chanter aruas are soo weak as to be pointless. It would be wonderful if there was a choice to be made, instead of just newbie traps.

There is a case to rep twincast aura with intensifying aura when everyone in your group has improved twincast running - its kind of an edge case to switch auras based around twincasts and alot of enchanters don't bother.

Not sure who you were speaking with, because mana ripple should always be running. I'd advise going to the enchanter discord for some good enchantering advice. As for the bard thing, I do think bards are soo meta that many fail to understand what enchanters even provide. However the best casters hug their enchanters.

 

Petalonyx

Active member
Full burn wizards hit for over 400k with Mana Reproduction Strike (whether from aura or from the buff). Other casters are less than half that.

I'd find your Wizards, and keep Mana Reproduction (the buff with 20 counters and 4+ min duration) on them - at minimum before raid start.

During a raid it could still be a good idea from a raw numbers perspective, but it probably depends on other factors, such as the time it takes to manage/spell slot, is recipient maxed out, etc.
 

Brickhaus

Well-known member
When I raid as a wizard, you best believe that I would be answering you. But wizards love procs.

Personally I prefer having the enchanter use twincast and ripple (unless there's a survival reason to use something else). The numbers say there are situations to run different auras during certain times, but I'd rather have a happy enchanter in my group than a stressed one keeping track of a bunch of stuff. I don't actually see a lot of enchanters in our open raids so when one does show, I'm thankful. I do sometimes have to nudge about auras, but it's because the enchanter is usually a 23rd alt and not a ton of experience.

I think I'd rather have you not delay casting reinforcement or a mind nuke over a refresh of mana reproduction (starting an event with it is fine). But I've never sat down and done the numbers.
 

Kaelwyse

Well-known member
I just want to make sure you understand that you can have two auras running as an Enchanter. (And those two should be Twincast and MR.)

It sounds like maybe you are asking about the spell MR, which I agree you probably shouldn't ever bother casting on anybody.
 

fransisco

Well-known member
I just want to make sure you understand that you can have two auras running as an Enchanter. (And those two should be Twincast and MR.)

It sounds like maybe you are asking about the spell MR, which I agree you probably shouldn't ever bother casting on anybody.
Almost - you only cast it for bribes.
 

Addikeys

Member
At 125, I box my enchanter with a druid. For dps, should I be using the druid Coldburst aura and something else like the enchanter's Intensifying Aura (plus Twincast Aura)? The dru and chanter auras overwrite each other.

Or, is the Mana Reproduction Aura just much better dps to replace the druid aura and Intensifying Aura?


Thanks,

Edit: Question was based on faulty premise. Thanks,
 
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Vumad

Cape Wearer
I started raiding not long ago and I keep asking the grp which auras you would like me to use and nobody every answers other than twincast. the only short duration buff I get tells to cast is Nights Eternal Darkness. When I ask the other enchanters in the raid, they say they do not use mana ripple aura. When raid dps classes are doing billions of damage in the raid, are Enchanters proc auras not enough of a dps increase for people to care if we use them or not?

Nobody even cares if I use Mana Reproduction, but most grps complain if they don't get a bard. Is it worth casting mana reproduction once the raid starts, because one of our DDs might do more damage than the damage from MR

The short version answer is in raids you want to be running Twincast and MR proc.

The longer version is that there are a few places where you can change them out.

If everyone in the group coordinates a burn at the open of the event, then everyone will be running ITC. ITC is 100% twincast so the aura is not doing anything productive. You can drop it for a short period for spell focus. You MUST switch back though because spell focus isn't going to work on spells with a travel time (you see those mage spells that throw a fire ball? Nada). So if you want to optimize, do spell focus and MR while the entire group coordinates ITC, then drop spell focus and run Twincast.

If your healer dies and is struggling with mana, you can swap one temporarily with mana regen. Probably MR so your healer can still twincast heals. MR is good DPS, but if a DPS dies and loses all their mana, MR isn't doing jack. I very rarely do this, but if the healer has died more than once and is really struggling to recover, I do make the change to help them get going again.

Arcane disjuction, the "tash totem" can be valuable. On events like Stratos, Shei, Biddles, Hazuri, etc, mez resists can create problems that can be worth giving up a little DPS to prevent. Not everyone would agree with that, but if the choice keeps 1 person from dying, then saving their DPS is worth it. Our guild is ENC heavy, so when a tash totem is used, it is done so by the ENC that is in the group that will benefit the least from the MR aura. This is possibly even more true when light on ENC. If you only have 1 ENC on Hazuri, then that ENC should drop MR for the tash totem. Losing that ENC or 1 tank could be devastating costing way way more DPS than MR adds, so tash totem and get the job done. On Hazuri specifically, run Twincast and MR until 40%, and when the last replicant dies, drop MR for Tash totem and get to work.

Also, sidebar but relevant, is remember that we have Echos, which do the same thing as auras, but instead of hugging the ENC, you hug the spot the ENC leaves the echo. On events like High priest, where people have to run away frequently, and the ENC might need to move some to mez, it can be better to drop an Echo at your group, so you can run off and leave your aDPS with them. (Twincast doesn't have an echo, but MR and mana regen do).

As for group content, Learner's aura is nice, but it doesn't work on AA, so if you are leveling, it can be beneficial, but if you are max level, it is never used.
 
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