Age Old Caster Gear Question

Brickhaus

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On Live (for a while now) this isn't a question anymore. 2h ... procs rule the roost. 3 procs > 2 procs (with augs). Sympathetic Amplification AAs just increase the gap.

The only time you would consider a 1h + shield is when you are out of mana and need some help. Or you are a necro and still in the epic 2.0 useful range.
 

fransisco

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the defensive gain of a shield on a caster isn't even close to what a normal melee would be without a shield. The defensive gains are just too minimal to matter, so everyone uses 2h
 

Lubal

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the defensive gain of a shield on a caster isn't even close to what a normal melee would be without a shield. The defensive gains are just too minimal to matter, so everyone uses 2h
There are some occasional situations when I bandolier in 1H + shield on my shaman, but I'd be hard-pressed to imagine a situation where that would be the right play for a cloth caster (at 125; obviously, necros that haven't aged out of their 2.0 are a different story). At the very least, casters should all consider 2H to be the default option. Whether or not you also maintain a 1H + shield set is a more personal choice that factors in the content you engage in (with the default assumption being that they're just. not. good.).
 

fransisco

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There are some occasional situations when I bandolier in 1H + shield on my shaman, but I'd be hard-pressed to imagine a situation where that would be the right play for a cloth caster (at 125; obviously, necros that haven't aged out of their 2.0 are a different story). At the very least, casters should all consider 2H to be the default option. Whether or not you also maintain a 1H + shield set is a more personal choice that factors in the content you engage in (with the default assumption being that they're just. not. good.).
I'd love it if it was a valid choice. However strike through means that 50-75% of shield blocks don't work anyways.
On top of that, casters have the lowest returns on ac, yet somehow their shields also have the lowest amounts of ac on them to boot.
A caster using a shield would need to see significant defensive returns, because caster defense is soo pitiful that it feels like there is no point in reducing dps for defense.
 

Shea

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interesting thread and somewhat relevant to me. I have a druid that was a 'main' for a few years early on, switched back to my rogue during early luclin era and haven't looked back. Recently I leveled said druid up to 125, and I have a wizard and enchanter that I play regularly but have always just gone 1h + shield but haven't really kept up on any type of 'best' scenario for them.

What specifically is better about 2h vs. 1h/shield now? I take it 2h weapons proc more? would love to know more details, especially for the druid if anyone cares to go more in depth on the subject. Since I play a rogue primarily I've just never payed much attention to 2h weapons.
 

fransisco

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interesting thread and somewhat relevant to me. I have a druid that was a 'main' for a few years early on, switched back to my rogue during early luclin era and haven't looked back. Recently I leveled said druid up to 125, and I have a wizard and enchanter that I play regularly but have always just gone 1h + shield but haven't really kept up on any type of 'best' scenario for them.

What specifically is better about 2h vs. 1h/shield now? I take it 2h weapons proc more? would love to know more details, especially for the druid if anyone cares to go more in depth on the subject. Since I play a rogue primarily I've just never payed much attention to 2h weapons.
2 handers have a significantly larger sympathetic proc. Looking at LS tradeskill gear as an example, Ritual Dagger of Perpetual Reverie has a 6k sympathetic proc. Arcane Staff of Perpetual Reverie has a 13k sympathetic proc.
On top of the base proc, if you have a raid 2h, it will have 2 type 8 slots instead of a 4/7. That will allow for 2 sympathetic proc augments.
 
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